Kurtis and Tommy jump into Roger Stern’s legendary Avengers run with the final Stern volume! This volume features incredible battles that pit the Avengers against Zeus and the rest of Olympia, Magneto and the X-Men, the West Coast Avengers, a dozen dead heroes and villains, and even Doctor Doom!
Issues discussed: Avengers #278-285, X-Men vs. Avengers #1-4, West Coast Avengers Annual #2, Avengers Annual #16, Marvel Graphic Novel #27: Emperor Doom
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Just discovered this site and started here. Great podcast! One thing I do want to call out is that in your comments about the Emperor Doom story. I would have to disagree with your assessment in that Doom was defeated by his own hubris.
One of the great things about this story (and also how I’ve always read it) is that Doom actually gives up on purpose not because the Avengers were closing in on him. He did not lose to the Avengers per se or control of peoples mind. From the final pages, it’s shown that Doom was simply bored and becoming unfulfilled as a ruler no longer being challenged in any kind of way, since he controls everything now. He walked away because he wanted unpredictability and challenge in his quests for power and knowledge. Even Cap mentions that it seemed Doom gave up too easily and there were unknown factors at play.
Additionally I don’t believe comparing him to Thanos is entirely accurate. Thanos deep down is a very insecure being who feels that he is not deserving of power hence the constant self sabotage. Doom IMO has no sense of insecurity as he has always felt he is someone deserving and worthy of power, due to his intellect fueled by his tremendous ego and vanity. I never see Doom as the self sabotage type as mentioned though his ego/vanity does get in his way.
Aside from that great stuff l look fwd to listening to more episodes!